Nurse Ratched
4:38 Sat Oct 10
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Ok.
Do you pronounce 'scone' to rhyme with 'cone' or 'con'?
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ray winstone
4:38 Sat Oct 10
Re: Harvey Proctor
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The biggest cover up since Nurse bought a new frock.
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AfM
4:37 Sat Oct 10
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Good to have a civil discussion with you, Nurse.
Let's do it more often.
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Nurse Ratched
4:32 Sat Oct 10
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Ah. That's me not looking proply, innit.
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AfM
4:30 Sat Oct 10
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There seems plenty on there about Janner.
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Nurse Ratched
4:29 Sat Oct 10
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Do they go after paedophiles from all parties? The only articles I looked at today were about the Elm House/Dolphin Square 'nonce sense' and that's a witch hunt against tories, isn't it? Maybe I didn't read thoroughly enough to reach the stories about Labour diddlers.
Watson refused to sign the cross part letter against Lord Janner, though.
Watson and Exaro have a rather snug and mutually beneficial relationship.
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AfM
4:23 Sat Oct 10
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Before anyone blows their top, the cover ups aren't worse than the crimes but knowing it happened, not being part of it and defending the people involved is just plain disgusting.
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AfM
4:19 Sat Oct 10
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They seem to go after paediphiles from all parties though?
No party has a monopoly on it. It's the cover ups I find particularly hard to stomach.
In many ways, I'd rather we had people doing what Watson did than what used to happen with brushing under the carpet.
Hopefully, a happy medium will be found.
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Nurse Ratched
4:01 Sat Oct 10
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"It's very hard to like politicians of any persuasion."
*Nurse likes this*
Spent a bit of time on Exaro this afternoon. Absolutely bonkers, they are. So much pixels deployed in order to flog non-existent horses. It is astonishing how low they set their journalistic bar for evidence. One would almost think their efforts are purely politically motivated...
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IlfordArmy
3:54 Sat Oct 10
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cunts , the lot of em
howe was alright
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AfM
3:48 Sat Oct 10
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Ok, Nurse. I haven't followed the case at all so have no idea.
Scoring political points using paedophilia is repugnant, whoever is doing it and both Tories and Labour seem to be.
It's very hard to like politicians of any persuasion.
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Nurse Ratched
1:43 Sat Oct 10
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AfM 11:04.
I enjoyed your review of seamouse's post. Made me smile.
The only part I would disagree with is your analysis of his last para as being 'fair enough'.
In fact, the police initially concluded after their first investigation into 'Jane's' rape claim against Brittan (which I think was brought to their attention by Watson) that there was no evidence and the police dropped it. Watson then used his political influence to complain to the DPP and force the police to re-open a case they closed due to bugger all evidence. This was clearly wrong. He did more than just bring it to their attention and trust them to do their job. He pursued an agenda. Of course, they concluded a second time that there was nothing in Jane's accusations.
Apparently Jane falsely accused a family member of paedophilia in the past. She has mental health problems. But Watson thinks she is telling the truth.
Oh, and she just happens to be a Labour activist.
As does the dodgy ex social worker and convicted fraudster Chris Fay who is a leading player in the Elm House/Dolphin Square allegations against leading tories. He has put pressure on claimants to name names (claimants who say they were coerced) and claims to have seen photos which prove tories were paedophiles, but conveniently, nobody else has seen the photos.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:17 Sat Oct 10
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Watson seems to have entirely forgotten about the whole avoiding a libel suit by abusing parliamentary privilege to publicly name Brittan thing.
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Nurse Ratched
11:47 Sat Oct 10
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Apparently Watson, despite being asked, would not sign a cross party public letter calling for the prosecution of Lord Janner. I wonder why...
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Nurse Ratched
11:42 Sat Oct 10
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11923196/Tom-Watson-must-prove-his-point-or-admit-he-is-unfit-for-public-office.html
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AfM
11:04 Sat Oct 10
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Seamouse 6:48 Fri Oct 9
Your first paragraph is just plain stupid.
The second is ok.
The third is ridiculous.
The last seems fair enough.
A mixed bag.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
10:44 Sat Oct 10
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Seamouse 6:48 Fri Oct 9
'Homosexuality has been rife in all the major public schools since the 19th century, probably because its the only attention the poor little bastards get. That's why they turn into hard as teak Tories in later life, incapable of an ounce of human feeling'
Jeremy Corbyn and Harriet Harman are hard as teak Tories, incapable of an ounce off human feeling?
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Seamouse
6:48 Fri Oct 9
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Homosexuality has been rife in all the major public schools since the 19th century, probably because its the only attention the poor little bastards get. That's why they turn into hard as teak Tories in later life, incapable of an ounce of human feeling - typical of right-wing cretins like After 8, and others on this board.
Peter Cook once said he had to wear full cricket gear in bed every night in his dormitory just to deter the less persistent ones. He was referring to the school masters, not the prefects. He claimed that several masters tried to seduce him at Radley College and that's where his anti-establishment ethos started.
As for Cameron and Osborne, I bet a pig's mouth isn't the only orifice they have probed. So in all honesty, when very rich people have absolute power and no one to question their motives. Then it's very likely paedophilia and child abuse happened around Westminster, it was happening everywhere else.
Tom Watson had every right to ask for significant claims that were made, to be investigated and looked into. Anything else, you can blame the police.
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ray winstone
6:33 Fri Oct 9
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I'm glad you admitted to that.
Of course, Maggie's best friend Mr Saville did kind of put anyone to do with the Tory party into the landscape so to speak, she did well to cover up his atrocities, maybe one has suspicions that she did it for others. Just saying.....
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Dr Congo
6:30 Fri Oct 9
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Just caught up with Panorama. The scary thing is these people do actually believe their own stories, they seem to need a sort of hierarchy of abuse where you're a higher-grade "survivor" if you've been buggered by the head of MI5 rather than by the local nonce behind the bike sheds.
The police should view them with maximum suspicion as damaged individuals like they would with addicts, but they've headed 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
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